Comments on: Google Hates Your Business Model http://www.bostonmediadomain.com/google-hates-business-model/ Search, Social and Online Media for Domains Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:06:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: free Habbo credits http://www.bostonmediadomain.com/google-hates-business-model/#comment-184 free Habbo credits Sun, 19 Dec 2010 17:15:46 +0000 http://bostonmediadomain.com/?p=1272#comment-184 There is great information on this page. I like how you put things. I've added the feed to my Google Reader RSS subscriptions and will give you a mentioning over at my blog. I did have a loading speed problem with how fast this blog entry loaded. Might be a problem to check out. There is great information on this page. I like how you put things. I’ve added the feed to my Google Reader RSS subscriptions and will give you a mentioning over at my blog. I did have a loading speed problem with how fast this blog entry loaded. Might be a problem to check out.

]]> By: Jeff Selig http://www.bostonmediadomain.com/google-hates-business-model/#comment-82 Jeff Selig Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:51:41 +0000 http://bostonmediadomain.com/?p=1272#comment-82 Hey Robert, the whole experience was quit surreal to me. The thing I found the hardest to understand is the 30 days it took to get the true answer. I went back and forth with several teams and no one could lay their finger on why the campaign was QS=1. They kept sending me to links on landing page quality, but that was not the answer. I got the run around pretty good. The desicion came from up high and it took quite some time to filter down to the troop level. Hey Robert,
the whole experience was quit surreal to me. The thing I found the hardest to understand is the 30 days it took to get the true answer. I went back and forth with several teams and no one could lay their finger on why the campaign was QS=1. They kept sending me to links on landing page quality, but that was not the answer. I got the run around pretty good. The desicion came from up high and it took quite some time to filter down to the troop level.

]]> By: Robert http://www.bostonmediadomain.com/google-hates-business-model/#comment-81 Robert Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:19:25 +0000 http://bostonmediadomain.com/?p=1272#comment-81 With such impressive stats I'm surprised that Google didn't offer a better explanation. Looking at how much revenue they were losing in the process there had to be SOME reason that they weren't telling you. Google may talk a big game with all their free stuff, but when it comes to AdWords they are all about the money. With such impressive stats I’m surprised that Google didn’t offer a better explanation. Looking at how much revenue they were losing in the process there had to be SOME reason that they weren’t telling you. Google may talk a big game with all their free stuff, but when it comes to AdWords they are all about the money.

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]]> By: Jeff Selig http://www.bostonmediadomain.com/google-hates-business-model/#comment-79 Jeff Selig Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:20:39 +0000 http://bostonmediadomain.com/?p=1272#comment-79 yup, you hit the nail on the head. The competitive nature or lack thereof puts Google in the spotlight and potentially opens them up to lawsuits on several levels. yup, you hit the nail on the head. The competitive nature or lack thereof puts Google in the spotlight and potentially opens them up to lawsuits on several levels.

]]> By: manfmnantucket http://www.bostonmediadomain.com/google-hates-business-model/#comment-78 manfmnantucket Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:38:49 +0000 http://bostonmediadomain.com/?p=1272#comment-78 Right on. So this is the PPC side of the SEO problem. What I'd like to see more discussion about is the clear monopoly dynamic at work here. If there were a more healthy competitive search ecosystem, it wouldn't be such a major impact on your business and not so urgent, as the ranking (or ppc) penalty would only impact a fraction of your revenue. However, because of google's monopoly on search, business is forced to optimize for their technology, no matter how poorly it works. Also, if there were more competition, google would have to compete by being transparent about how it ranks and penalizes businesses. Why doesn't google offer a reasonable customer support line or means of recourse? They don't need to compete, strictly because of their size. By contrast, microsoft at least provides a flag in their webmaster console to let sites know if they've been penalized. Microsoft is not the biggest, so they have to compete. The end result is that small companies are forces to spend outsized amounts to diagnose a problem with PPC or organic search traffic, compared to large companies. The secretive practices of google and lack of recourse mechanisms can easily break smaller companies. In a market where there is only one 'seller' (of search traffic) the seller can ask any price for its product. I think there's a growing case for regulation of how search companies deal with the public - it's an issue similar to that of 'net neutrality', if you think about it. Anticompetitive practices force smaller companies off the playing field. enough rambling for now, but not enough grousing ;-) Right on. So this is the PPC side of the SEO problem.

What I’d like to see more discussion about is the clear monopoly dynamic at work here.

If there were a more healthy competitive search ecosystem, it wouldn’t be such a major impact on your business and not so urgent, as the ranking (or ppc) penalty would only impact a fraction of your revenue. However, because of google’s monopoly on search, business is forced to optimize for their technology, no matter how poorly it works.

Also, if there were more competition, google would have to compete by being transparent about how it ranks and penalizes businesses. Why doesn’t google offer a reasonable customer support line or means of recourse? They don’t need to compete, strictly because of their size. By contrast, microsoft at least provides a flag in their webmaster console to let sites know if they’ve been penalized. Microsoft is not the biggest, so they have to compete. The end result is that small companies are forces to spend outsized amounts to diagnose a problem with PPC or organic search traffic, compared to large companies.
The secretive practices of google and lack of recourse mechanisms can easily break smaller companies. In a market where there is only one ‘seller’ (of search traffic) the seller can ask any price for its product.

I think there’s a growing case for regulation of how search companies deal with the public – it’s an issue similar to that of ‘net neutrality’, if you think about it. Anticompetitive practices force smaller companies off the playing field.

enough rambling for now, but not enough grousing ;-)

]]> By: Marty Martin http://www.bostonmediadomain.com/google-hates-business-model/#comment-77 Marty Martin Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:05:44 +0000 http://bostonmediadomain.com/?p=1272#comment-77 @Jeff @Marc - I guess when you're the 1000 pound gorilla (or should that be guerrilla?) you can do whatever you want. I know some bigger publishers with really big budgets have personal account managers at Google. My guess is they get by with a lot more, because it's not just the smaller folks doing co-reg. "Don't be evil." @Jeff @Marc -
I guess when you’re the 1000 pound gorilla (or should that be guerrilla?) you can do whatever you want. I know some bigger publishers with really big budgets have personal account managers at Google. My guess is they get by with a lot more, because it’s not just the smaller folks doing co-reg. “Don’t be evil.”

]]> By: Jeff Selig http://www.bostonmediadomain.com/google-hates-business-model/#comment-76 Jeff Selig Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:59:24 +0000 http://bostonmediadomain.com/?p=1272#comment-76 Hi Marc, Google Senior PPC representative said their decision was final. That Google was loosing out on revenue too and the metrics did no matter [there's a bit of irony for you]this was based soley on the business model of co-registration. They would not answer the business decision versus algorithm conversation and were very cut and dry about the entire matter Hi Marc,
Google Senior PPC representative said their decision was final. That Google was loosing out on revenue too and the metrics did no matter [there's a bit of irony for you]this was based soley on the business model of co-registration. They would not answer the business decision versus algorithm conversation and were very cut and dry about the entire matter

]]> By: Marc http://www.bostonmediadomain.com/google-hates-business-model/#comment-75 Marc Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:52:28 +0000 http://bostonmediadomain.com/?p=1272#comment-75 Wow. I've heard about the Google "slap" before from a PPC standpoint, but didn't know that it could affect your entire adwords campaign in this way. In the end, what was Google's official response to the whole matter after you presented them with your above average performance metrics? Wow. I’ve heard about the Google “slap” before from a PPC standpoint, but didn’t know that it could affect your entire adwords campaign in this way. In the end, what was Google’s official response to the whole matter after you presented them with your above average performance metrics?

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